[JW Lua] RGP Lua Announcement

Robert Patterson robert at robertgpatterson.com
Fri Nov 26 21:07:08 CET 2021 

As you have discovered, RGP Lua grays out menu options when they can't
invoked, based on the finaleplugin namespace.

On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 12:59 PM Simon Leclerc <simon at prodsl.ca> wrote:

> Just a follow-up on this last matter:
>
> It seems the plugins that had the “finaleplugin.RequireSelection” set to
> true, would appeared greyed out in the menu.
>
>
>
>
>
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>
> Simon Leclerc
> 60, Mirabelle
> Ste-Agathe-des-Monts, Québec
> J8C 0W9
> simon at prodsl.ca
>
>
>
>
> On November 26, 2021, at 11:05, Simon Leclerc <simon at prodsl.ca> wrote:
>
> Dear Robert,
>
> I had a little bit of time to begin the integration of your RGP Lua. Up
> until now, all plugins that I wrote seem to work flawlessly.
> Very comforting to know we’ll have a strong and valid option for the near
> future. Thank you!
>
> One strange thing that I noticed: if I use the “auto-folder” option in the
> configuration window, the first time I want to select one of those plugins
> in the menu, some of them are greyed out and some are not. Once I have used
> an available plugin (not greyed out), the next time they all look as
> “available".
>
> I have not figured out what may be causing this...
>
>
>
>
>
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>
> Simon Leclerc
>
>
>
>
>
> On November 25, 2021, at 18:28, Robert Patterson <
> robert at robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
>
> 1. You can definitely modify installed scripts on the fly with RGP Lua. I
> do it all the time. What you may have encountered is that ZeroBraneStudio
> will not let you modify a script while it's being debugged. Also, sometimes
> it seems like you have to save a change more than once. These are
> features/glitches in ZeroBraneStudio. I researched pretty hard for a
> debugger solution in Visual Studio Code, and I think there may be one or
> two, but after I got ZeroBrane working I quit trying.
>
> 2. RGP Lua is using the same FCCustomWindow code as JW Lua, so I am quite
> curious why the tab key isn't working the same. But there are some elements
> of it that probably aren't the same, so it would be helpful to know which
> OS and to get a script that exhibits the problem.
>
> Thanks,
> Robert
>
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 4:35 PM Carl Vine <carlvine at iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>> RGPLua works right out of the box as advertised and the debugger is fast
>> and accurate. Impressive! Two early responses.
>>
>> 1. EDIT SCRIPTS IN PLACE
>> With JWLua you can modify installed scripts on an external editor and JW
>> executes the newly saved file immediately. Very convenient. RGP seems to
>> load scripts on startup and won’t accept a modified file until Finale
>> reboots.
>>
>> 2. TAB KEY IN DIALOGS
>> With FCCustomWindow() dialogs in JWLua the tab key gives rapid cycling
>> between editable text fields. That behaviour would be great on RGP!
>>
>> Carl
>>
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>> >   1. RGP Lua Announcement (Robert Patterson)
>> >   2. Re: RGP Lua Announcement (Thomas Weber)
>> >   3. Re: RGP Lua Announcement (Robert Patterson)
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>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 10:17:11 -0600
>> > From: Robert Patterson <robert at robertgpatterson.com>
>> > To: "The JW Lua script plug-in." <jwlua at jwmusic.nu>
>> > Subject: [JW Lua] RGP Lua Announcement
>> > Message-ID:
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>> > This message is to announce the initial release of a new Finale-embedded
>> > Lua interpreter called RGP Lua. The reason for this project is that the
>> > much-appreciated JW Lua has an uncertain future. It has not been updated
>> > since 2017. It is gradually becoming incompatible with new releases of
>> > Finale, and it will stop working entirely under a likely imminent
>> release
>> > of Finale for Apple Silicon.
>> >
>> > Nearly all existing scripts should work identically as in JW Lua. There
>> are
>> > a few incompatibilities, however. Most notable is that I haven't
>> > implemented finenv.UserValueInput. (You can use FCCustomWindow instead.
>> > It's slightly more cumbersome to use but looks far better.) Also, the
>> setup
>> > and development environments are completely different, though simple to
>> > use. Downloads and documentation are here:
>> >
>> > https://robertgpatterson.com/-fininfo/-rgplua/rgplua.html
>> >
>> > JW Lua has also had some long-standing limitations that we all would
>> like
>> > to see addressed. I am interested in feedback as to what is most
>> important
>> > to the community. Here are some ideas of mine:
>> >
>> > Support for modeless dialogs. This will be easy to implement within my
>> > code, so I'll probably do it soon. But it will require some changes to
>> how
>> > scripts interact with RGP Lua, so I'll cover it in a separate post if
>> there
>> > is interest.
>> >
>> > Moving past Lua 5.2 to...what? To LuaJIT? (LuaJIT is based on Lua 5.1
>> and
>> > appears to be abandoned.) To Lua 5.4? (Lua 5.3 and higher introduce
>> > breaking changes in how Lua number to integer conversion happens which
>> has
>> > potentially a huge impact on existing JW Lua scripts.) Maybe just stay
>> put?
>> >
>> > Direct support for the new doc-settings classes in F26.2 and higher.
>> >
>> > Addition of missing classes. I'm betting FCTieMods is high on a number
>> of
>> > lists. But anything I add will need testing beyond what I can do by
>> myself.
>> > In the case of FCTieMods, I worry that there was some reason Jari never
>> > implemented it, though I don't see it if there is.
>> >
>> > Two big enhancements already in RGP Lua are 1) support for Lua
>> > 5.2-compatible C libraries and 2) the option to embed luasocket for
>> > external debugging or other purposes.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Robert
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>> > Message: 2
>> > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 17:49:59 +0100
>> > From: Thomas Weber <thomas.weber at notengrafik.com>
>> > To: "The JW Lua script plug-in." <jwlua at jwmusic.nu>, Robert Patterson
>> >       <robert at robertgpatterson.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [JW Lua] RGP Lua Announcement
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>> > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 11:18:49 -0600
>> > From: Robert Patterson <robert at robertgpatterson.com>
>> > To: Thomas Weber <thomas.weber at notengrafik.com>
>> > Cc: "The JW Lua script plug-in." <jwlua at jwmusic.nu>
>> > Subject: Re: [JW Lua] RGP Lua Announcement
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>> > RGP Lua has its own download page in the link. (And, yes, it's free.)
>> Jari
>> > still deserves much of the thanks, because this project would not have
>> been
>> > possible without him making the PDK Framework source code available.
>> All I
>> > had to do was create a Lua wrapper for it, which was easier than you
>> might
>> > think. (JW Lua has some undocumented reflection features that made it
>> > possible to automate a great deal of the wrapper code.)
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 10:50 AM Thomas Weber <
>> thomas.weber at notengrafik.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Wow, that's incredible.  Now we have two embedded Luas for Finale!?  I
>> >> have far too much work for the rest of the year to try it, but given
>> your
>> >> track record, I have no doubt that this is excellent software.  I just
>> went
>> >> to your "purchase" page and was amazed that RGP Lua is not listed
>> there.
>> >> It's really amazing that both Jari and you make your work on this
>> available
>> >> for free.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Am 24.11.21 um 17:17 schrieb Robert Patterson:
>> >>
>> >> This message is to announce the initial release of a new
>> Finale-embedded
>> >> Lua interpreter called RGP Lua. The reason for this project is that the
>> >> much-appreciated JW Lua has an uncertain future. It has not been
>> updated
>> >> since 2017. It is gradually becoming incompatible with new releases of
>> >> Finale, and it will stop working entirely under a likely imminent
>> release
>> >> of Finale for Apple Silicon.
>> >>
>> >> Nearly all existing scripts should work identically as in JW Lua. There
>> >> are a few incompatibilities, however. Most notable is that I haven't
>> >> implemented finenv.UserValueInput. (You can use FCCustomWindow instead.
>> >> It's slightly more cumbersome to use but looks far better.) Also, the
>> setup
>> >> and development environments are completely different, though simple to
>> >> use. Downloads and documentation are here:
>> >>
>> >> https://robertgpatterson.com/-fininfo/-rgplua/rgplua.html
>> >>
>> >> JW Lua has also had some long-standing limitations that we all would
>> like
>> >> to see addressed. I am interested in feedback as to what is most
>> important
>> >> to the community. Here are some ideas of mine:
>> >>
>> >> Support for modeless dialogs. This will be easy to implement within my
>> >> code, so I'll probably do it soon. But it will require some changes to
>> how
>> >> scripts interact with RGP Lua, so I'll cover it in a separate post if
>> there
>> >> is interest.
>> >>
>> >> Moving past Lua 5.2 to...what? To LuaJIT? (LuaJIT is based on Lua 5.1
>> and
>> >> appears to be abandoned.) To Lua 5.4? (Lua 5.3 and higher introduce
>> >> breaking changes in how Lua number to integer conversion happens which
>> has
>> >> potentially a huge impact on existing JW Lua scripts.) Maybe just stay
>> put?
>> >>
>> >> Direct support for the new doc-settings classes in F26.2 and higher.
>> >>
>> >> Addition of missing classes. I'm betting FCTieMods is high on a number
>> of
>> >> lists. But anything I add will need testing beyond what I can do by
>> myself.
>> >> In the case of FCTieMods, I worry that there was some reason Jari never
>> >> implemented it, though I don't see it if there is.
>> >>
>> >> Two big enhancements already in RGP Lua are 1) support for Lua
>> >> 5.2-compatible C libraries and 2) the option to embed luasocket for
>> >> external debugging or other purposes.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> Robert
>> >>
>> >>
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