[JW Lua] FCNoteentry methods...

Robert Patterson robert at robertgpatterson.com
Thu Jun 23 02:27:51 CEST 2022


Ah, yes. Interestingly, I very recently discovered that those horizontal
values have an effect, even though they are unsupported in the Finale UI.
They affect the angle of the beam by starting the beam as if it started at
the horizontal offset but then the beam only shows starting/ending where it
intersects the beginning and ending stems. This could actually be useful in
some tight spacing situations (also tremolos!), but controlling it is going
to be mostly guesswork and trial and error. (I actually now wish Finale's
UI could do it, just to make figuring it out easier.)

What you need is *FCBeamExtensionMod*. However, this class is inexplicably
absent from the PDK Framework. I can only imagine the need never arose and
therefore Jari never created it. But good news: I recently realized it was
missing and have created it for v0.63, which is the next release of RGP Lua.

You can look at the docs for the latest dev version-in-progress. Clone
the documentation
repo <https://github.com/finale-lua/rgpluadocs> and checkout the
v0.63-changes branch. Launch any of the html pages in your browser, and
you'll immediately be looking at the full doxygen pages updated with all
the upcoming attractions for 0.63 in the PDK Framework.

On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 7:01 PM Simon Leclerc <simon at prodsl.ca> wrote:

> So I had time today to look into it a little bit more.
> The solution you proposed Robert, worked perfectly with the 2 quarter
> notes becoming a tremolo of half notes.
>
> Where I encounter a problem  is if I want to modify the horizontal
> beginning and end (offsets) of the beam. Like in the case of 2 half notes
> becoming a tremolo of whole notes. Obviously, I don’t want the beams to
> extend close to the notes.
>
> To me, the 2 methods Left and Right HorizontalOffset have no effect what
> so ever. The vertical ones work as anticipated, though.
>
> As in this exemple, with or without the 2 “horizontal" lines, the result
> is the same:
>
>
>   for entry in eachentrysaved(finenv.Region()) do
>     if entry.BeamBeat and not entry:CalcUnbeamedNote() then
>       local beam_mod = finale.FCBeamMod(true)
>       beam_mod:SetNoteEntry(entry)
>       beam_mod:SetBeamNumber(3)
>       beam_mod.LeftVerticalOffset = beam_mod.LeftVerticalOffset + 24 ---
> the whole chosen beam is moved up
>       beam_mod.RightVerticalOffset = beam_mod.RightVerticalOffset + 24 ---
> the right side of the chosen beam is moved up
>       beam_mod.LeftHorizontalOffset = beam_mod.LeftHorizontalOffset + 24
> --- does nothing
>       beam_mod.RightHorizontalOffset = beam_mod.RightHorizontalOffset + 24
> --- does nothing
>       beam_mod:SaveNew()
>     end
>   end
>
> Has anyone got success modifying the actual horizontal beginning and
> ending of a beam? As when one does it manually with the beam extension tool?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>
> Simon Leclerc
> 60, Mirabelle
> Ste-Agathe-des-Monts, Québec
> J8C 0W9
> simon at prodsl.ca
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 21, 2022, at 21:20, Simon Leclerc <simon at prodsl.ca> wrote:
>
> Thank you so much Robert for this very insightful answer. I’ll look into
> it having all that in mind.
>
> Simon Leclerc
> Composer, conductor, arranger
>
> Le 21 juin 2022 à 20:35, Robert Patterson <robert at robertgpatterson.com> a
> écrit :
>
> 
> I'm fairly certain that these are calculated values provided by Finale so
> you don't have to constantly recalc them for yourself. (Same with the clef
> value on FCNoteEntry.) I don't really know why they are writable. That was
> done long before I got to the code base. Any new values you write will be
> retained for the life of the FCNoteEntry instance, but they will not be
> saved.
>
> To copy TGTools Easy Tremolos you need to modify the Duration property and
> add an invisible tuplet. So, for example, to turn 2 consecutive quarters
> into a half-note tremolo with three beams, you would change the Duration of
> each note from QUARTER_NOTE to NOTE_32ND. Then you would add a new
> invisible tuplet to the first one that is 2 32nds in the time of 2
> quarters. After the FCNoteEntry is saved, the next time you retrieve it the
> MeasurePos and ActualDuration properties will have been updated.
>
> I don't at this moment recall how much Jari's documentation says about
> TGFs. The PDK Framework mostly hides them from Lua scripters, but it's a
> pretty important concept for working with note entries. Entries always come
> out of a TGF, which is an array of entries for a single layer in a single
> measure. To save an entry, you have to save the entire TGF. This can lead
> to possibly unexpected behavior, for example:
>
> for e in eachentrysaved(region) do
>    e.Duration = e.Duration / 2
>    break
> end
>
> This would appear to halve the first entry in a region, but in fact the
> entry won't be saved because you broke out of the loop. To save the entry,
> the loop *must complete*. (You can see for yourself how eachentrysaved
> works, because I've posted all the built-in iterator functions to the
> lua-source <https://github.com/finale-lua/lua-source> repository. Or you
> can fish it out of the jwlua binary for yourself, like I did originally.)
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 6:53 PM Simon Leclerc <simon at prodsl.ca> wrote:
>
>> Hi to all,
>>
>> Am I right to understand that the 2 FCNoteentry methods “SetMeasurePos”
>> and “SetActualDuration” have no effect?
>>
>> I’m working on a plugin that deals with tremolos between whole notes and
>> it does not seem possible to modify those 2 parameters.
>>
>> I analyzed the result of the TGTool plugin “Easy tremolos” and I can see
>> that the 2 parameters have been changed and saved.
>>
>> Is there another class that needs to be addressed to make it work?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>
>> Simon Leclerc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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