[JW Lua] Problem with the new FCSmartShapeEntryConnectStyle: only first image updated and not affecting the slurs
Jan Angermüller
jan at angermueller.com
Sun Jun 4 17:29:22 CEST 2023
Thank you again, Robert, for your explanation.
Yes, I can confirm that it seems to work old Finale v3 documents, but
not in Finale v2 documents.
But are you sure that the placement values are not sorted?
In my code below I didn't use your indices
(SSENTCNCTSTYLE_HEAD_LEFT_TOP, SSENTCNCTSTYLE_HEAD_RIGHT_TOP,
SSENTCNCTSTYLE_HEAD_RIGHT_BOTTOM ...), because they seemed to be
irritating for me:
they don't reflect the order of the images in the Smart Shape Placement
dialog.
For example to get the values from the second image from the Smart Shape
Placement dialog (slur below head, default values 0/-12) which I would
refer to as "Head Left Bottom/Head Right Bottom" in your naming
convention is index 4 / 5.
But index 4/5 is called "STEM_LEFT_TOP / STEM_RIGHT_TOP" in your enum.
Instead I ran a loop that printed me all default values from Finale 27
like this:
local numentr=29
local i
for i=1,numentr do
local prefs=finale.FCSmartShapePrefs()
prefs:LoadFirst()
local a
=prefs:CreateEntryConnectStyle(finale.SSENTCNCTSTYLETYPE_SLURS,i-1)
if a then
print(a.HorizontalOffset,a.VerticalOffset)
end
end
With this list it was easy to reproduce the order of the indices.
I just had to compare them with the values from the images.
Jan
Am 03.06.2023 um 14:56 schrieb Robert Patterson:
> On further review, it seems the conversion from Finale v2 is not
> complete. The connection indices aren't set/ Currently, the only way
> to fix the issue is manually hit the reset button for each of the slur
> contours. Adding a mechanism to do this in RGP Lua is problematic
> because the contour values do not appear to be sorted in any
> particular way. Only the app knows how to do it.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 7:35 AM Jan Angermüller <jan at angermueller.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Robert.
>
> Sorry, maybe I was a bit unclear. This was not the problem that I
> meant.
> I know that that the slur won't update as it is beat-attached.
> And yes, the next step would be the TG Tools tool to make it
> note-attached (However, it has a number of problems with more
> complex slurs like the ones used in this score).
>
> I meant the problem with the "Smart Shape Placement" dialog not
> being correctly updated.
> It won't update when I apply the RGP Lua script - except for the
> very first image (top slur).
>
> So any new (note-attached) slur that I create afterwards still
> uses the old offsets, although the "Smart Shape Placement" dialog
> shows the correct new values that the RGP Lua script has created.
>
> Looks like some internal thing is not updated through RGP Lua -
> only for the first "Slur Placement" image, but not for the
> following images.
> Only after I click on "Reset" in the Smart Shape Placement dialog,
> the values won't change - as they are already the correct default
> values.
> But the image will update and also the (note-attached) slurs in
> the score.
>
> Attached is another file with two additional note-attached slurs.
> Here is another short video:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqcz6Fe4nh0
> 1.) after I apply the "Update slur placement script" (code from my
> first email), the "Under" slur in the last measure still starts
> directly on the notehead instead of -12 EVPU away from it.
> However, the "Over" slur in the second bar is correctly updated
> (the first preview image in the Smart Shape Placement dialog is
> also correct - it's only all other images that are not correct)
> 2.) When I enter the Smart Shape Placement dialog, it show the
> correct -12 EVPU value for the "Under" slur, but the preview image
> doesn't display -12.
> 3.) Only after I click on "Reset" in the "Smart Shape Placement"
> dialog, Finale actually seems to write the existing -12 EVPU value
> into its memory and update the slur. The -12 EVPU doesn't change
> by clicking "Reset", but the preview image (and the slurs in the
> score) are updated.
>
> Jan
>
>
> Am 03.06.2023 um 14:03 schrieb Robert Patterson:
>> As near as I can tell, I believe the chief issue you have is that
>> the slur is beat-attached. This is a legacy slur mode, no longer
>> well-supported in the UI, though it has its uses. (For example, I
>> use them as arpeggiation ties and lv ties. I also use them when a
>> measure is partially hidden with alt notation, because
>> note-attached slurs get hidden on the entire measure if the first
>> part of the measure is hidden.)
>>
>> Finale v1, iirc, did not have smart shapes at all.
>> Finale v2 had smart shapes but only beat-attached smart shapes.
>>
>> I'm guessing the file was imported from v2. If so, all slurs will
>> be legacy beat-attached slurs. The best tool I know of to convert
>> beat-attached to note-attached is one of the TGTools plugins. Of
>> course, it should be possible to write a lua script to do it.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 5:20 AM Jan Angermüller
>> <jan at angermueller.com> wrote:
>>
>> Robert,
>>
>> I was just playing a bit the new
>> FCSmartShapeEntryConnectStyle-stuff as I received an old
>> Finale score where the slur placement wasn't setup yet (all
>> values set to 0).
>> I don't know what Finale version this score was created in,
>> probably in Finale v1 or v2.
>> The user wrote that he has been using Finale since v1.0.
>> The file info lists creation date and application as "unknown".
>> However, the score was imported into Finale 27 and sent to me
>> as a Finale 27 document.
>>
>> When I run the script below in Finale 27, the default slur
>> placement settings are correctly written into the slur
>> placement dialog.
>> However, the preview images in the slur placement dialog are
>> not updated - except for the very first image (slur above
>> downstem notes).
>> And when I attach a new slur it still uses the old 0,0 values
>> instead of the values written.
>>
>> It seems like only the images of the first dialog are updated
>> (slur above downstem notes) and only the first four values
>> are actually used from Finale - although all other values
>> look fine in the Slur Placement dialog.
>> Could it be that there is something missing in your code that
>> actually writes the new values (after value 1-4) more deeply
>> into Finale?
>>
>> Below is my test code.
>> For trying to track down the problem I have reloaded the
>> FCSmartShapePrefs for each value pair and immediately saved it.
>> But it's the same result when I load it only once and save it
>> after the loop.
>>
>> Attached is the file excerpt and here is a screencam video
>> that shows the problem:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPa0LeALXCs
>> I have tested it both with RGP Lua v0.66 and v0.67. Same result.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> local defvalues=
>> {0,12,0,12,
>> 12,-24,-12,-24,
>> 0,-12,0,-12,
>> 12,24,-12,24,
>> 12,-24,-12,-24,
>> 6,4,-12,-48,
>> 8,0,-6,48,
>> 0,-3,-24,-3,
>> 0,3,0,9,
>> 0,12,0,12,
>> 0,-12,0,-12,
>> 24,-24,
>> 24,-24,
>> 24,24,
>> 0,8,0,8,
>> 0,-8,0,-8}
>>
>> local numentr=29
>> local index=1
>> local i
>> for i=1,numentr do
>> local prefs=finale.FCSmartShapePrefs()
>> prefs:LoadFirst()
>> local a
>> =prefs:CreateEntryConnectStyle(finale.SSENTCNCTSTYLETYPE_SLURS,i-1)
>> if a then
>> a:SetHorizontalOffset(defvalues[index])
>> a:SetVerticalOffset(defvalues[index+1])
>> prefs:SaveEntryConnectStyle(a,finale.SSENTCNCTSTYLETYPE_SLURS,i-1
>> )
>> prefs:Save()
>> end
>> index=index+2
>> end
>>
>> Jan
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