[JW Lua] Set staff to chromatic transposition

Robert Patterson robert at robertgpatterson.com
Thu Mar 30 16:10:54 CEST 2023


Yes, I agree Hide Key and Show Acci could be improved as it works with
Speedy Entry. But everything else is much better than with Chrom Trans.
Especially copy/paste.

You may get better Speedy results if you set Enharmonic Spelling to Use
Default. (Or if you do like I do and always enter concert pitch with
Transpose MIDI on Input enabled.)

Nevertheless there is the occasional frustration: like it is impossible to
enter Gb on a horn part (with a key of NoKey) no matter which Enharmonic
Spelling you use. I complained about this once to MakeMusic and,
unbelievably, got pushback.

The PDK Framework also has a dump mechanism, but it isn't as comprehensive.
Check out __FCBaseData.CreateDataDump.


On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 8:57 AM Aaron Sherber <aaron at sherber.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately, Hide Key Signature and keyless scores don't do what I want
> -- they both assume an underlying key. (So, for example, any Cs and Fs I
> enter in a Bb clarinet part automatically become sharped.) It seems that
> only chromatic transposition lets me enter what I see on the page with no
> alterations. I can't understand why Finale implemented keyless scores this
> way; Sibelius got it right.
>
> I did diff the Enigma dumps to see what was going on; it wasn't
> immediately clear to me what the differences represent, but I'll take
> another look. In any case, this isn't hugely important -- just would be a
> nice time saver to have a script to change all key sig transposed staves to
> chromatic.
>
> Thanks,
> Aaron.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 9:44 AM Robert Patterson <
> robert at robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
>
>> I can't recall ever having figured this out. I would encourage you not to
>> use Chromatic Transposition and instead to use Hide Key Signature and Show
>> Accidentals instead. Chromatic Transposition is a legacy feature.
>>
>> That said, if you are determined to figure it out, you can use my Enigma
>> Text Dump
>> <https://robertgpatterson.com/-fininfo/-downloads/download-free.html>
>> plugin with a text comparison tool as follows:
>>
>>    1. Create a small file containing only the value you want to change.
>>    2. Run the Text Dump plugin and save to somewhere easy: i usually
>>    save to my Desktop folder (mac) as 1.txt.
>>    3. Make the change in Finale that you are interested in.
>>    4. Run the Text Dump plugin and save to 2.txt.
>>    5. Compare the results with your text tool.
>>
>> This shows you the scope of changes you need to make to accomplish your
>> task.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 7:58 AM Aaron Sherber <aaron at sherber.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if anyone knows the secret sauce for changing a
>>> transposing staff from key signature transposition to chromatic
>>> transposition.
>>>
>>> If I take a staff with key sig transposition and set TransposeChromatic
>>> to true, then odd things happen to other values. For example, a Bb clarinet
>>> staff with key sig has interval=1, alter=2. Once I set TransposeChromatic,
>>> those numbers immediately change to interval=67, alter=0. And it turns out
>>> that the values I actually want in order to get things to look right are
>>> interval=2, alter=0. Horn in F starts with interval=4, alter=1 and goes to
>>> interval=2, alter=1 after setting TransposeChromatic. And if I try setting
>>> alter=0, it becomes -1.
>>>
>>> Am I missing something here?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Aaron.
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