[JW Lua] Set staff to chromatic transposition

Robert Patterson robert at robertgpatterson.com
Thu Mar 30 16:25:52 CEST 2023


That change is actually happening in the Getter function, and it has to do
with how Finale stores them. Basically, you should store the
ChromaticTranspose option first, then set the interval and alteration. Then
it should stick.

That said, I am not 100% there isn't a bug. Let me know if you are seeing
incorrect results once they have been set.



On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 9:10 AM Robert Patterson <
robert at robertgpatterson.com> wrote:

> Yes, I agree Hide Key and Show Acci could be improved as it works with
> Speedy Entry. But everything else is much better than with Chrom Trans.
> Especially copy/paste.
>
> You may get better Speedy results if you set Enharmonic Spelling to Use
> Default. (Or if you do like I do and always enter concert pitch with
> Transpose MIDI on Input enabled.)
>
> Nevertheless there is the occasional frustration: like it is impossible to
> enter Gb on a horn part (with a key of NoKey) no matter which Enharmonic
> Spelling you use. I complained about this once to MakeMusic and,
> unbelievably, got pushback.
>
> The PDK Framework also has a dump mechanism, but it isn't as
> comprehensive. Check out __FCBaseData.CreateDataDump.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 8:57 AM Aaron Sherber <aaron at sherber.com> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately, Hide Key Signature and keyless scores don't do what I want
>> -- they both assume an underlying key. (So, for example, any Cs and Fs I
>> enter in a Bb clarinet part automatically become sharped.) It seems that
>> only chromatic transposition lets me enter what I see on the page with no
>> alterations. I can't understand why Finale implemented keyless scores this
>> way; Sibelius got it right.
>>
>> I did diff the Enigma dumps to see what was going on; it wasn't
>> immediately clear to me what the differences represent, but I'll take
>> another look. In any case, this isn't hugely important -- just would be a
>> nice time saver to have a script to change all key sig transposed staves to
>> chromatic.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aaron.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 9:44 AM Robert Patterson <
>> robert at robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I can't recall ever having figured this out. I would encourage you not
>>> to use Chromatic Transposition and instead to use Hide Key Signature and
>>> Show Accidentals instead. Chromatic Transposition is a legacy feature.
>>>
>>> That said, if you are determined to figure it out, you can use my Enigma
>>> Text Dump
>>> <https://robertgpatterson.com/-fininfo/-downloads/download-free.html>
>>> plugin with a text comparison tool as follows:
>>>
>>>    1. Create a small file containing only the value you want to change.
>>>    2. Run the Text Dump plugin and save to somewhere easy: i usually
>>>    save to my Desktop folder (mac) as 1.txt.
>>>    3. Make the change in Finale that you are interested in.
>>>    4. Run the Text Dump plugin and save to 2.txt.
>>>    5. Compare the results with your text tool.
>>>
>>> This shows you the scope of changes you need to make to accomplish your
>>> task.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 7:58 AM Aaron Sherber <aaron at sherber.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering if anyone knows the secret sauce for changing a
>>>> transposing staff from key signature transposition to chromatic
>>>> transposition.
>>>>
>>>> If I take a staff with key sig transposition and set TransposeChromatic
>>>> to true, then odd things happen to other values. For example, a Bb clarinet
>>>> staff with key sig has interval=1, alter=2. Once I set TransposeChromatic,
>>>> those numbers immediately change to interval=67, alter=0. And it turns out
>>>> that the values I actually want in order to get things to look right are
>>>> interval=2, alter=0. Horn in F starts with interval=4, alter=1 and goes to
>>>> interval=2, alter=1 after setting TransposeChromatic. And if I try setting
>>>> alter=0, it becomes -1.
>>>>
>>>> Am I missing something here?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Aaron.
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