<div dir="ltr">P.S. You'll have to infer which is the horizontal offset position. I'm pretty sure it's the 2nd-to-last number.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 8:21 AM Robert Patterson <<a href="mailto:robert@robertgpatterson.com">robert@robertgpatterson.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>This is a perfect use case for the Enigma Text Dump plugin I sent out a couple of days ago.</div><div><br></div><div>1. Dump your accidtest.musx file using the plugin.</div><div>2. Nudge an accidental right then left, so its position is unchanged.</div><div>3. Dump the file again using the plugin.</div><div>4. Compare.</div><div><br></div><div>I just did it, to make sure it works, but I already knew the answer. This behavior of accidentals had a subtle change around 2000. I don't remember the exact date. If the handle is on the left, it means there is no FCAccidentalMod detail for that note. If it is on the right, it means there is.</div><div><br></div><div>You can use the same process as above to determine what your offsets need to be.</div><div><br></div><div>1. Dump your original accidtest.musx file using the plugin.</div><div>2. Place the accidental where you want it to be.</div><div>3. Dump the file again using the plugin.</div><div>4. Compare</div><div><br></div><div>I hope this helps.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 8:05 AM Jan Angermüller <<a href="mailto:jan@angermueller.com" target="_blank">jan@angermueller.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Jari et al.,<br>
<br>
here is a weird accidental movement behaviour.<br>
<br>
When I use the Accidental Mover tool (or FCAccidentalMod ->
HorizontalPos) and change the horizontal position to a new value,
the accidental jumps onto the notehead (!) and takes the notehead as
a new reference position.<br>
This Finale document was created with Fin2002a.<br>
The normal behaviour is that the change of the horizontal position
keeps the reference position (i.e. far before the notehead) and
moves only according to the new value.<br>
<br>
See this video:<br>
First the weird behaviour, then the normal behaviour (in the Fin2014
default document):<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRLsU40Kog8" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRLsU40Kog8</a><br>
<br>
While making this video I also noticed, that sometimes the anchor
point changed (!).<br>
So maybe there used to be a flag in Finale (<=2002) which changed
the alignment point of the accidental.<br>
Have a look at the 23. second in this video: I click on the anchor
point and it suddenly jumps from the right of the accidental to the
left of the accidental.<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EjOfAlhwMM#t=20s" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EjOfAlhwMM#t=20s</a><br>
When the anchor point jumps (but this only happens very seldom, and
I can't reproduce it) and I check the FCAccidentalMod it suddenly
returns a -54 EVPU value for HorizontalPos. While by default (when
the anchor point hasn't jump before) it returns no existing
accidental mod and thus a 0 EVPU value.<br>
<br>
I haven't found a way to detect or to remove this behaviour yet.
Probably it's not even possible.<br>
Attached is the document with the measure from the video where this
weird thing happens.<br>
<br>
Any ideas?<br>
The only thing that came to mind: it was created with Fin2002a. <br>
Maybe this was a bug in Fin2002a which they fixed in 2002b? <br>
Or this was something available before 2002, but not supported
anymore.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Jan<br>
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