<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">This is great news, Robert, regarding the creation of the <b class="">FCBeamExtensionMod.</b><div class=""><b class=""><br class=""></b></div><div class="">I had the feeling, as you said, that the Left/Right Horizontal offset had an impact somehow/somewhere and your explanation makes sense.<br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 22, 2022, at 20:27, Robert Patterson <<a href="mailto:robert@robertgpatterson.com" class="">robert@robertgpatterson.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Ah, yes. Interestingly, I very recently discovered that those horizontal values have an effect, even though they are unsupported in the Finale UI. They affect the angle of the beam by starting the beam as if it started at the horizontal offset but then the beam only shows starting/ending where it intersects the beginning and ending stems. This could actually be useful in some tight spacing situations (also tremolos!), but controlling it is going to be mostly guesswork and trial and error. (I actually now wish Finale's UI could do it, just to make figuring it out easier.)<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What you need is <b class="">FCBeamExtensionMod</b>. However, this class is inexplicably absent from the PDK Framework. I can only imagine the need never arose and therefore Jari never created it. But good news: I recently realized it was missing and have created it for v0.63, which is the next release of RGP Lua.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You can look at the docs for the latest dev version-in-progress. Clone the <a href="https://github.com/finale-lua/rgpluadocs" class="">documentation repo</a> and checkout the v0.63-changes branch. Launch any of the html pages in your browser, and you'll immediately be looking at the full doxygen pages updated with all the upcoming attractions for 0.63 in the PDK Framework.<br class=""></div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 7:01 PM Simon Leclerc <<a href="mailto:simon@prodsl.ca" class="">simon@prodsl.ca</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;" class="">So I had time today to look into it a little bit more.<div class="">The solution you proposed Robert, worked perfectly with the 2 quarter notes becoming a tremolo of half notes.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Where I encounter a problem is if I want to modify the horizontal beginning and end (offsets) of the beam. Like in the case of 2 half notes becoming a tremolo of whole notes. Obviously, I don’t want the beams to extend close to the notes.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">To me, the 2 methods Left and Right HorizontalOffset have no effect what so ever. The vertical ones work as anticipated, though.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As in this exemple, with or without the 2 “horizontal" lines, the result is the same:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""> for entry in eachentrysaved(finenv.Region()) do</div><div class=""> if entry.BeamBeat and not entry:CalcUnbeamedNote() then</div><div class=""> local beam_mod = finale.FCBeamMod(true)</div><div class=""> beam_mod:SetNoteEntry(entry)</div><div class=""> beam_mod:SetBeamNumber(3)</div><div class=""> beam_mod.LeftVerticalOffset = beam_mod.LeftVerticalOffset + 24 --- the whole chosen beam is moved up</div><div class=""> beam_mod.RightVerticalOffset = beam_mod.RightVerticalOffset + 24 --- the right side of the chosen beam is moved up</div><div class=""> beam_mod.LeftHorizontalOffset = beam_mod.LeftHorizontalOffset + 24 --- does nothing</div><div class=""> beam_mod.RightHorizontalOffset = beam_mod.RightHorizontalOffset + 24 --- does nothing</div><div class=""> beam_mod:SaveNew()</div><div class=""> end</div><div class=""> end</div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Has anyone got success modifying the actual horizontal beginning and ending of a beam? As when one does it manually with the beam extension tool?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class="">
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 21, 2022, at 21:20, Simon Leclerc <<a href="mailto:simon@prodsl.ca" target="_blank" class="">simon@prodsl.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Thank you so much Robert for this very insightful answer. I’ll look into it having all that in mind.<br class=""><br class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Simon Leclerc<div class="">Composer, conductor, arranger</div></div><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Le 21 juin 2022 à 20:35, Robert Patterson <<a href="mailto:robert@robertgpatterson.com" target="_blank" class="">robert@robertgpatterson.com</a>> a écrit :<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">I'm fairly certain that these are calculated values provided by Finale so you don't have to constantly recalc them for yourself. (Same with the clef value on FCNoteEntry.) I don't really know why they are writable. That was done long before I got to the code base. Any new values you write will be retained for the life of the FCNoteEntry instance, but they will not be saved.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">To copy TGTools Easy Tremolos you need to modify the Duration property and add an invisible tuplet. So, for example, to turn 2 consecutive quarters into a half-note tremolo with three beams, you would change the Duration of each note from QUARTER_NOTE to NOTE_32ND. Then you would add a new invisible tuplet to the first one that is 2 32nds in the time of 2 quarters. After the FCNoteEntry is saved, the next time you retrieve it the MeasurePos and ActualDuration properties will have been updated.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I don't at this moment recall how much Jari's documentation says about TGFs. The PDK Framework mostly hides them from Lua scripters, but it's a pretty important concept for working with note entries. Entries always come out of a TGF, which is an array of entries for a single layer in a single measure. To save an entry, you have to save the entire TGF. This can lead to possibly unexpected behavior, for example:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">for e in eachentrysaved(region) do</div><div class=""> e.Duration = e.Duration / 2</div><div class=""> break</div><div class="">end</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This would appear to halve the first entry in a region, but in fact the entry won't be saved because you broke out of the loop. To save the entry, the loop *must complete*. (You can see for yourself how eachentrysaved works, because I've posted all the built-in iterator functions to the <a href="https://github.com/finale-lua/lua-source" target="_blank" class="">lua-source</a> repository. Or you can fish it out of the jwlua binary for yourself, like I did originally.)<br class=""></div><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 6:53 PM Simon Leclerc <<a href="mailto:simon@prodsl.ca" target="_blank" class="">simon@prodsl.ca</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="">Hi to all,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Am I right to understand that the 2 FCNoteentry methods “SetMeasurePos” and “SetActualDuration” have no effect?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m working on a plugin that deals with tremolos between whole notes and it does not seem possible to modify those 2 parameters.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I analyzed the result of the TGTool plugin “Easy tremolos” and I can see that the 2 parameters have been changed and saved.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Is there another class that needs to be addressed to make it work?<br class=""><div class="">
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